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This video is beautiful, heartbreaking and powerful. It's triggering, but in a good way. It makes me angry, but it makes me want to stand up and say, fuck yes, this is it.

But the trolling comments and negative remarks? They're disgusting. I have no words for the people who call feminists nazis, no words for the hate that continues against me and my peers because we have breasts and a vagina. It is disgusting. It is disgusting that I live in the land of the fucking free, and there are people who believe it is okay to hate, that it is okay to treat over half the population like they are something less.

It is not okay.

If you believe that men and women should have an equal opportunity, you are a feminist.
If you believe that two people who do the same exact amount of work should be paid the same wage, you are a feminist.
If you believe a person of competent mind should have the right to choose whether to have a medical procedure or not, you are a feminist.
If you believe that someone should be able to go to work or out in public without being harassed by a stranger, you are a feminist.
If you believe someone has the right to choose their partner, you are a feminist.
If you people that a human being has the right to feel safe in his or her own home, you are a fucking feminist.

Own it.

I am a feminist, and I am fucking proud of it.

Video rediscovered via Abyss2Hope.

Date: 2009-08-25 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I like this post.

I recently had to explain to my thirteen-year-old brother that "feminist" is not a bad word, and it ended up with him self-identifying at one. I was really proud.

Date: 2009-08-25 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Thank you.

I would be proud, too. :)

Date: 2009-08-25 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I agree, but with one caveat:

If you believe that two people who do the same exact amount of work and have been employed at the company for the same amount of time should be paid the same wage, you are a feminist. (because loyalty to a company should be rewarded, and yes, I make more than the other male engineer that has been employed for half the time I have, though he does have a master's degree and I don't, so it's a close call)

Oh, and:

A feminist also believe that a woman can be a stay-at-home mother if that's her choice. Just because you choose - and choose is the operative word - to stay with your child does not make you anti-feminist. It's not anti-feminist to be girly, either.

But at the same time... I also do not believe standards should be lowered for women to be employed in certain jobs. Because 1) it implies that women can't hit the standards set for men and 2) there are certain jobs that require certain physical abilities. I do not condone hiring female firefighters that would not be able to drag my fat ass out of a burning building. Are there women that could? Yes. Should they get the job? Yes. Should the 105-pound waif who can't pick up a twenty-pound weight get the job? No (oh, and that applies if they are female or male).

Date: 2009-08-25 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Okay, I will concede to your caveat. I'm a youngin', so I don't think about you old fogies and your loyalty quite yet. ;)

I think stay-at-home moms are awesome. I think working moms kick ass, too. Moms in general rock. And so do women who choose to be child-free. :)

Feminists come in all shapes and sizes, and I think that some people just. don't. get. that. It's so sad that some people seem to think that you must be a lesbian with pixie hair and no bra to be a feminist. I like the menz, but I like having equal rights, too.

I think we talked before about the firefighter example, but to recap for everyone who is not as awesome as us, I think we decided that the key is that the *opportunity* is there, regardless if our firefighter trainee passes or not.

Date: 2009-08-25 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yeah, gotta think of us old folks! ;)

And you're right - the 105-pound wimp should not be barred from trying for the job. And if they can bulk up and make it? More power to them, they earned it.

I think a few very radical feminists have given a very bad impression, and that's stuck with people. I don't even think most people would say that a person who wants equality is a 'feminist', just a person, really.

And there are people who take it very much too far (the real 'feminazis') who ruin it for the rest of us sane, rational people. Another example of how extremism never benefits anyone, I suppose. :(

Date: 2009-08-25 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I was astonished (and woken up a bit, I suppose) when I went back to college and found, where I'd expected to find young feminism and optimism and lots of the more positive -isms, women who would absolutely not self-identify as 'feminist' and if they made an argument for equality in class or a lecture would quickly qualify it with "but I'm not a feminist or anything."

The word's been stolen by its enemies far too effectively, to the point that you'd think "feminist" was the equivalent of "puppy-stomper." Heh, maybe on a larger scale it really reflects the same problems, the victims get blamed for calling out the victimizer not just in individual situations but in society as a whole?

Date: 2009-08-25 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I think the people that badmouth feminism are the ones that are thinking of these feminists, whom I have run into in both real life and on Teh Interwebs, who believe:
-If you want to be a stay at home mom or housewife, you are a Slave to the Man. Ditto if you have too much interest in fashion/makeup/or anything seen as being done to please men, even if it's not.
-The only way to truly be a feminist, is to be a lesbian. All men, all of them, are scum and should be utterly ignored.

I know that's the fringe belief and I wonder how that became what people think of when they think of that word and sneer. :shrug: But it is disgusting from both sides.

Thanks for defining real feminism.

Date: 2009-08-25 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
...of course I could've just said "ditto to smeddley" lol.


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